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Moonrise over Orion by Rob-Caswell Moonrise over Orion by Rob-Caswell
Orion III model by MattC. Rendered in DAZ Studio, postworked in Photoshop. Be sure to give it a view at full size!
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Seaview123 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very sharp looking model!
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
I agree! I did a few postwork enhancements, but the mesh is pretty darn good to begin with.
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Deepblu742 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011
Coolest looking render I've seen of the Orion III.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2011  Professional General Artist
Hey, thanks! I think this is my personal fave of the Orion III images that I've done so far.
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Nanahikinookamidesu Featured By Owner May 3, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Hey you probably haven't seen this but it looks alot like a shark.

(Just joking!!!) :laughing:
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MJBivouac Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2011
The space craft designs of 2001 were truly inspired. They look as cool, modern, and beliveable today as they did 40 years ago.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2011  Professional General Artist
Agreed. It's a film that's aged remarkably well and set up a new standard for cinematic SF.
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MJBivouac Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2011
Right on all counts.
When I saw 2001 for the first time probably around '73 or '74, my brother kidded me because all the spacecraft I started to draw and design all had a large spherical front end like the DISCOVERY.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2011  Professional General Artist
:lol: Yeah, it's funny how we can run with design trends like that as kids. But hey - Star Wars' ship design philosophy is still reverberating through the media. So few ships are "carefully engineered" on the big screen. Most just look like "cool escapees from an anime" and don't make much design sense. Of course I can't be too harsh. Afterall Space:1999 was pre-Star Wars and the Eagles (used as atmospheric craft) were kind of absurd. Cool... but absurd.
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MJBivouac Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2011
Hmm, how so absurd? I always felt that 1999 design concepts came out of the 2001 mold to a great extent. Of course I am speaking of the earth craft not the alien stuff. But as I aged, I have started to see more of a mix of 2001 and a THUNDERBIRDS flavor as well for obvious reasons.
Something that I have always kind of liked for being just different, were the spacecraft designs form "Planet of the Vampires". Totally Italian, and unique. Perhaps not great designs in that they don't appear to be all that functional, but at least unique.
yes, and for better or for worse, Star Wars has certainly influence several generations of futurist hardware designers. And sadly, someone like Syd Mead while beloved and hailed as a great designer and futurist, has rarely been used in futurisic films...of course he WAS in one of the best know films about the future, BLADERUNNER, but after that there was 2010, but I can't think of anotehr film that used his style, or him.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2011  Professional General Artist
As a lunar workhorse, the Eagle was a great design. But in no way is that design suitable for controlled atmospheric reentry, let alone SSTO ascent. Yeah, I'm an aerospace geek - and I say with pride on this 50th anniversary of Yuri's flight ;) Sure, I was only 8 months old at the time, but it's an event that seeped in and colored my formative years... and even my dreams today.

Syd is a great futurist, but spacecraft design seems his weak point. Great anime styling, but not very well engineered concepts spaceflight. I'm much more drawn to the conceptual spacecraft work of folks like Ron Cobb or Steve Burg. Probably my fave SF ship (designwise) to date is the Venture Star from Avatar. It's not a central character, but it's such a well though out design for the period.
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MJBivouac Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2011
Good points. I think the EAGLE was probably origianlly designed as a MOON/Moonbase specific craft and it makes sense in that respect. But then as they started their voyage and aliens couldn't always come to the moon to have a story happen, they sometimes needed to make planet fall to propel the story along. And that is when teh EAGLE design becomes a problem. The production would have been wise to have included a few shuttle/lifting body type vehicles that would have made more sense for planetary landings.
As for Mead, if anything I would say a lot of his spaceraft designs are functional but a bit visually uninteresting.
Cobb certainlty does amazing work. He's a master of perspective, form and texture! Are his designs practical? Well they certainly are interesting!
I have yet to see AVATAR. I've been avoiding it out of spite for Cameron.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2011  Professional General Artist
Yeah, the lifting body idea would have been cool. They sorta did that in one season two episode, but that was too little, too late.

On Mead/Cobb, I tend to have the flip perspective. I know Cobb's designs work because he often explains them and the engineering solutions are usually quite elegant. I think Mead is more stylist than engineer. The reason Drell-7 and I redesigned the Leonov is that Mead's design was such a poor fit. For the era it was too bulky, the deck arrangement in the central body made no sense relative to the ship's thrust and braking vectors, and maybe worse of all, it just didn't look Russian. It looked Mead.

Also, I read the book first. Clarke didn't give a LOT of details, but he gave enough to paint a fuzzy lil' picture - and Mead's designw as something totally different. This said, Mean is one of my art heroes and has definitely had an influence on me. I just don't view him as a "Swiss Army knife" of SF design. He's great at some things, not so good at others. But I'm forever thankful for the mark he left on Bladerunner. I don't think the film would have achieved its current status without his contribution.

So "spite for Cameron"? Why's that?
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DavidAkerson Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2011
Definitely a shark. :lol:

Great job all the same, nice touch with the red glows on the cockpit. Now I'm definitely convinced haha.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2011  Professional General Artist
:lol:

Sharks are cool :D
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Nils-Iver Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2011  Hobbyist Writer
it looks like a rokke from beneath [link]
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2011  Professional General Artist
Yup - kind of.
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Ptrope Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
'Nuther damfine job! Love the juxtaposition in the title, too - really adds scope to the image.
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:iconrob-caswell:
Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks.
Yeah, I'm not one to miss a good, corny, quasi-pun title :D
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dmaland Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Especially good lighting in this one.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks! Can't go wrong with a "comforting blue glow". :)
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dinobatfan Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011
OHHHHHH WOW!!!! So Gorgeous an image!!!!! The colors, lighting, angle, and detail in this image and ship are just absolutely fantastic!!! This really brings the ship to life and maintains the stately grace of it. Like another commenter said...the reflections of light from the passenger windows and cockpit are terrific touches that really liven the ship up. Fantasic work! :)
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
Well it's all too easy to "dehumanize" spacecraft, but in most cases they are just "high tech human transport tubes". It's nice to be able to work that human element back in on some level and give the hardware more of a sense of being "inhabited".
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dinobatfan Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011
Indeed. And it makes them so much more interesting and colorful to see.
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AbaKon Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional Writer
On my way out the door for work. But had to say...cooltastic.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
Short of time.... the story of my recent life.

Thanks! I hope you took the time to view it at full size?
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Blades-123 Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Great, predatory looking ship, lovely moonscape too.:)
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks! I doubt the Clipper is very "predatory"... or at least no more so than a 737 :) But it brings up a funny memory! I remember buying the Aurora model, back in the day. The probes extending from the back of the engineering area (I'm guessing them to be static discharge probes, by design) were labeled in the instructions as "lasers". I'm guessing it was to better "capture kids' imaginations for adventure possibilities", but in retrospect it's pretty silly.
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Venomater Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very nice work my friend, makes me think of a Shark. . . . .
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
Ah, the shark thing again (see first comment). I hadn't really noticed that, but I can certainly see it now :)
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SpaceCowboy5000 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Sweet! Love the juxtaposition of the moon and Orion. Amazing detail too. You can almost make out Haywood "Pink" Floyd waving from the cockpit. :wave:
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
Or at least his pen tapping against the glass ;)

Actually, this is a USAA bird, not a Pan Am bird.... but Floyd could easily nap here, too.
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archangel72367 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2011  Student Digital Artist
Love the detailing in the cockpit! I had toyed with that idea. Does the inverted pose seem a little familliar? ;) It does to me! I am flattered.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
Yeah, I think your recent inverted Orion image was kicking around the back of my brain. We're all swimmin' in the same pool, here :) But this one really came from just fooling with the camera until I hit something that "spoke to me". I was flyin' all over the thing. I guess this is just one of those angles/orientations that proves hard to resist :D
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mdbruffy Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2011
With Moonbase Alpha tracking orion's course, right? Another good one.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
EEEK! My universes are blurring!
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mdbruffy Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011
LOL!!!
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Drell-7 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2011  Professional General Artist
NIIIICE! I LOVE the window light splashing on the wing!
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
Heh - thanks! I was pretty pleased with how it came out, too :D
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Night-Forager Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2011   General Artist
Great job! As always! :)

One minor note, this time it kind of reminds me of a shark. It took me a second to realize it, but the cockpit windows made the cut-in look like an open mouth.
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
I'm not so sure that looking like a shark is bad. Sharks have pretty sleek and attractive lines. :)
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Night-Forager Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011   General Artist
I didn't mean that in a bad way; it looks great! :)
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Rob-Caswell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
Thanks :) Seems like you're not the only one to pick up on the shark similarity (read below).
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